>>neil: so now the pressure will be on next week's vice presidential debate on the next presidential debate where a lot of president obama supporters will say you better come out swinging, you better do what ronald reagan did after a lackluster opening debate with mondale. i don't know whether he does it with aject -- a joke or a quick zinger at ronald reagan did but is it incumbent upon the president to get the forts back and get back in the game? >>guest: you would think so. how could we avoid the critique of the president's performance in that debate? as i said from left to right it has been very, very critical. it is hard to think of a debate except maybe the 1980 debate between reagan and carter where the gap between the incumbent and the challenger was so great, if this doesn't get the obama white house attention nothing will. you are right, they will come up with some lines or a joke or something but it is not as though romney is just going to sit back and do nothing between now and the next debate. my guess is based on his past practice, he already is working with portman on